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Birth |
Abt 1815 |
Over Darwen, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom [4, 5, 6, 7, 8] |
Gender |
Female |
Died |
27 Apr 1877 |
Darwen, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom [4, 5] |
Person ID |
I305 |
Jacob Strong and Sarah Hill |
Last Modified |
22 Apr 2015 |
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Father |
John Shorrock, b. Apr 1775, Darwen, Lancashire, England, Great Britain , d. 1 Aug 1845, Darwen, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom |
Mother |
Mary Kay, d. 26 Jan 1851, Darwen, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom |
Married |
19 Mar 1798 |
Blackburn, Lancashire, England, Great Britain |
Family ID |
F1351 |
Group Sheet |
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Family |
Michael Fish, b. Abt 1818, Over Darwen, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom , d. 20 Sep 1886, Over Darwen, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom |
Married |
15 Feb 1836 |
Blackburn, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom [9, 10, 11, 12, 13] |
Notes |
The following is noted in correspondence written to Jay Strong from John Marsden in England on 17 August 1997:
"The Lower Chapel register shows the birth of their (Michael and Hannah's) first child, William, later that year (they were married on 15 Feb 1836). 'William Fish born to Michael and Hannah (nee Shorrock). June 22nd, 1836.' These two pieces of evidence: that he was very young when he married and that he was described as a bachelor in the marriage register, are sufficient to convince me that there was no earlier wife name Emily. You know the rest of Michael's story from my first letter. There is an English saying, 'Marry in haste, repent at leisure,' and that seems to sum it up as far as Michael was concerned. It would raise eyebrows even today, an eighteen year old youth getting a woman of almost thirty pregnant. There was no such thing as divorce in those days, so once you married, you remained married. Yes, he did eventually leave his wife (in May 1862 according to John Marsden in correspondence with Jay Strong on 3 December 1997) but he was not free to marry again until she had died. He was about 59 years old when Hannah passed on and he outlived her by a further nine years--but they are buried together in the same grave." [14]
Married:
- Please see web tags.
In a note from John Marsh (of England) and Jay Strong (a Strong descended from Jacob Strong and Alice Fish Walsh): "The Exact wording of the Fish/Shorrock marriage entry reads as follows:
'Michael Fish of this parish, bachelor and weaver and Ann Shorrock of this parish, spinster, were married in this church by banns, with consent, this fifteenth day of February in the year 1836, by me Gilmour Robinson, (both parties signed with a cross; i.e. they could not write their names) in the presence of Joseph Fairbrother and James Neville.'"
A marriage between Michael Fish and an Emily almost certainly never took place. It is highly probably that in the 1851 Census, Emilie was mistakenly inserted as the name for his wife, Ann. Please see Census for 1851. All of the children, including a new baby, are listed as being with Michael and "Emilie". He appears in the 1851 Census of Over Darwen with a wife Emilie and in the 1861 Census of Over Darwen with a wife Hannah. He had a child by Hannah (Ann) in 1851. Documentation of his marriage to Hannah (Ann) in 1836 has been found.
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Children |
| 1. William Fish, b. 22 Jun 1836, Darwen, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom , d. Yes, date unknown |
| 2. John Fish, b. 29 Dec 1838, Darwen, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom , d. 9 Jun 1910, Darwen, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom |
| 3. James Fish, b. Apr 1841, Darwen, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom |
| 4. Thomas Fish, b. Abt 1844, Darwen, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom , d. Yes, date unknown |
| 5. Richard Fish, b. 1848, Darwen, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom , d. 6 Mar 1922, Darwen, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom |
| 6. Jane Fish, b. 1851, Over Darwen, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom , d. Yes, date unknown |
| 7. Michael Fish, b. Abt 1855, Over Darwen, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom , d. Yes, date unknown |
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Family ID |
F293 |
Group Sheet |
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Sources |
- [S33] Professional Research done by John Anderegg.
The entire family group sheet for Thomas Fish/Mary Waddiker was researched with the following sources listed:
1)FHL film #087825: 1851 Census of Over Darwen, Lancashire, England, page 255, 35 White Hall.
2) Parish Registers of Blackburn Cathedral, Blackburn, Lancashire; Altham, Lancashire; Accrington, Lancashire; Over Darwen, Lancashire. All received by correspondence.
3) Computer File Index and Temple Records Index Bureau.
4) FHL film #560876: Parish Registers of Lower Independent Church, Over Darwen, Lancashire, England.
5) FHL film #560875: Parish Registers of Pole Lane Independent Church, Over Darwen, Lancashire and Parish Registers of Particular Baptists Church, Islington, Blackburn, Lancashire, England.
6) FHL film #560892: Parish Registers of Wesleyan Methodist Church, Over Darwen, Lancashire, England.
7) Cemetery Records of Over Darwen, Lancashire, (Church of England); Lower Independent Church, Over Darwen, Lancashire; Blackburn Cathedral, Blackburn, Lancashire. All personally searched in England.
- [S975] Jay Strong Letter from John Stuart Marsden, Personal Correspondence; 17 August 1997.
- [S29] Professional Research done by A. Boyd Nielsen.
- [S975] Jay Strong Letter from John Stuart Marsden, Personal Correspondence; 17 August 1997.
See family note for Michael and Hannah Shorrock Fish.
- [S976] John Marsden Research.
Correspondence dated 3 December 1997.
- [S184] 1871 British Census.
Citing this Record
"England and Wales Census, 1871," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBN9-R8W : accessed 23 April 2015), Jane Fish in household of Hannah Fish, Over Darwen, Lancashire, England; from "1871 England, Scotland and Wales census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing PRO RG 10, folio 88, p. 5, Blackburn registration district, Darwen subdistrict, ED 4, household 21, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey; FHL microfilm 846,942.
Please see web tag.
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Hannah Fish Self F 57 Over Darwen, Lancashire
Richard Fish Son M 23 Over Darwen, Lancashire
Michael Fish Son M 16 Over Darwen, Lancashire
Jane Fish Daughter F 20 Over Darwen, Lancashire
- [S1104] 1841 British Census.
Source Citation
Class: HO107; Piece: 503; Book: 11; Civil Parish: Blackburn; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 11; Folio: 35; Page: 2; Line: 25; GSU roll: 306892
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1841 England Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc, 2010.
Original data: Census Returns of England and Wales, 1841. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK (TNA): Public Record Office (PRO), 1841. Data imaged from the National Archives, London, England.
Please see web tag.
Household Members:
Name Age
Michel Fish 20
Ann Fish 25
William Fish 5
John Fish 2
James Fish 2 Mo
- [S183] 1861 British Census.
Source Citation
Class: RG 9; Piece: 3110; Folio: 79; Page: 22; GSU roll: 543080
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1861 England Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2005.
Original data: Census Returns of England and Wales, 1861. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK (TNA): Public Record Office (PRO), 1861. Data imaged from The National Archives, London, England.
Household Members
Name Age
Michael Fish 44
Hannah Fish 47
John Fish 22
Thomas Fish 17
Richard Fish 13
Jane Fish 10
Michael Fish 6
Please see web tag.
- [S975] Jay Strong Letter from John Stuart Marsden, Personal correspondence; 17 August 1997.
"Michael Fish of this parish, bachelor and weaver and Ann Shorrock of this parish, spinster, were married in this church by banns, with consent, this fifteenth day of February in the year 1836, by me Gilmour Robinson, (both parties signed with a cross; i.e. they could not write their names) in the presence of Joseph Fairbrother and James Neville."
- [S976] John Marsden Research.
Date of letter to Jay Strong: 3 Dec 1997.
- [S1096] Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936.
In Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936, Image 517/1355.
In Lancashire Anglican Parish Registers, p. 169, #506
- [S1101] England Marriages, 1538-1973.
"England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N6TY-42T : accessed 22 April 2015), Michael Fish and Ann Shorrock, 15 Feb 1836; citing Blackburn, Lancaster, England, reference it2, p169, no506; FHL microfilm 1,278,808.
Please see web tag.
- [S1188] Marriages 1835-1837.
Page 169, Entry 506
Michael Fish, Weaver and Ann Shorrock, Spinster, both of the Blackburn Parish.
Witness: Joseph Fairbrother; James Neville
- [S33] Professional Research done by John Anderegg.
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